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    ukpokervegan
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    iPoker – £0.50 NL (2 max) – Holdem – 2 players

    Hero (SB): 181.58 BB
    BB: 34.68 BB (VPIP: 81.82, PFR: 45.45, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)

    Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

    Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 4 K

    Hero raises to 2 BB, BB calls 1 BB

    Flop: (4 BB, 2 players) 9 J 7
    BB checks, Hero bets 2.8 BB, BB raises to 5.6 BB, Hero calls 2.8 BB

    Turn: (15.2 BB, 2 players) 5
    BB checks, Hero checks

    River: (15.2 BB, 2 players) A
    BB bets 5 BB, fold

    BB wins 14.44 BB

    Q. Is this a good spot to shove?

    A. I think so. There are likely many draws and this is a min raise so it doesn’t look like villain is trying to protect a TP hand against any draws I might have.

    If we assume that villain is min-raising with all his decent* 7x, 8x, 9x and Tx plus a bunch of decent flush draws of his own then we have 47% equity plus a lot of fold equity!

    Q2. Should we do the same when we don’t have the overcard?

    A2. Without an overcard I simply call and take the odds. A hand like 42s here has 37% equity which is a big difference.

    NOTE
    With AK here we would be ahead of that range with 58%.

    * I arbitrarily used all hands north and west of the pocket pairs on the range chart to consider what hands might be considered “decent”.

    #455172

    JonR22R
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    I personally would only call here , maybe shoving is fine , but we are holding 2 spades , so it’s less likely he has a spade draw , T8 is already a straight , and in my experience 35bb deep he will call all made hands of you raise after he Xr flop 

    #455185

    jaybee1982
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    Like Jon said, we don’t usually have a lot of fold equity versus short stacks, so I would just take my cheap equity. I might jam a combo draw or a FD with two overcards, where we really don’t care if we get called.

    #455697

    Paddy
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    why would we shove? vs tp 2.pair we are behind. fold equtiy is less as in 100BBs spots.

    Worst non MAde Hand for a shove would be 2overs+Flushdraw . as we would be ahead his TP 

    no matter how hard it is or how bad it gets i'm going to make it

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