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  • #471510

    Bifizerocool
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    Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold’em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager – The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    SB: $2 (100 bb)
    BB: $1.72 (86 bb)
    Hero (UTG): $2.44 (122 bb)
    MP: $4.85 (242.5 bb)
    CO: $1.57 (78.5 bb)
    BTN: $2.02 (101 bb) Unknown

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q of hearts Q of spades
    Hero raises to $0.05, 2 folds, BTN raises to $0.20, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.15

    Flop: ($0.43) J of diamonds A of spades 9 of hearts (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN bets $0.27, Hero calls $0.27

    Turn: ($0.97) Q of clubs (2 players)
    Hero bets $0.61, BTN raises to $1.55 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.94

    River: ($4.07) 7 of diamonds (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Results: $4.07 pot ($0.14 rake)
    Final Board: J of diamonds A of spades 9 of hearts Q of clubs 7 of diamonds
    Hero showed Q of hearts Q of spades and lost (-$2.02 net)
    BTN showed A of diamonds A of hearts and won $3.93 ($1.91 net)

     

    Q: donkbet or checkraise or checkcall ?

    A: So villains is unkown but he 3b, that he is on the BU , doesnt make his 3brange wider because we are at 2Nl, so there is no optimistic or pessimistic range., in this spot I think he just 3b with all premium hands.TT+,AKo,AKs.

    so after the flop my equity drops from 52% to 29%against his range. So I checked.

    After he bets 75% of pot I need  30% to make a call, I only have 14% against his betting range of AKs,AKo,JJ,AA so its a fold but because of implied odds where I have to call 13BB to win 125BB where I only need 9,4% equity to call makes this call profitable again.

    I hit my SET and my equity goes up to 79%, the Qc is not a scare card at all because all his hands which could have made straights would likely call preflop.

    His range looks like this: 3 combos AA, 3 combos of AKs, 9 combos AKo,3 combos JJ, 6 combos KK.

    I think donkbetting allinn is best because his range is so strong i think he will never fold here not even KK so I can just donkbetallin for value and I just loose to s SET of Aces and its only 12,5% of the time.

    After seeing this result we can say that yeah we lost but it doesnt say that our play was bad because he could have holded the others hands which we beat in this situation so we shouldnt get upset with the result.

    We can say that his bet after my check was a solid play because we have many hands in our checking range which could outdraw his AA, he didnt check behind with SET of Aces and raises the turn after my donkbet  so we can assume  that he is not the slowplay type of guy, and therefore bluff more against his checks and fold more against his 75% bets and his raises. We can maybe assume that if he bets smaller than 75% of the pot, that he just wants to steal the pot, with bluffs, and this would mean that we could raise our weak hands against  1/2 pot cb range and call with our mediocore hands

    I am going to read NOBS so  I dont know much about the BPC standard lines.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    #471527

    playsmart4
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    Call Preflop 3b, Check-Call Flop, Check-Shove Turn! 

    This is a very simple situation after you learn NO BS Book! 

    Dont need to waste a lot on energy on easy/standard spots. 

    You will have AA next time from BTN and he QQ from UTG and it will be the other way around. 

    Take your time and learn NO BS Book, you will have more clarity when you play and you will know in every situation what you will have to do. 

    95% of spots are recurrent so you will have a default play and only 5% are the more interesting situation where you will have to think/adjust and make the optimal play that will get you the most money!

    GL!

    #471561

    Carlos
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    Against the correct villain, you can even 4Bet 2.5x or even 4Bet shove on the Pre-Flop with QQ. Since we don’t know the villain the call is ok.

    Answering your question, it’s a check-shove OTT or a shove OTR if villain checks behind OTT. You are only beaten by AA (3 combos), KJs maybe (4 combos) and he’ll have all AK (12 combos) and JJ (3 combos) in his range. I dislike the donk bet OTT because you prevent villain to bet with his bluffs like AK or JJ, that’s the main reason why you should check shove OTT or Shove OTR in the case villain checks behind OTT. Better luck next time m8.

    #471576

    Bifizerocool
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    thank you I start to read it today

    #471577

    Bifizerocool
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    Against the correct villain, you can even 4Bet 2.5x or even 4Bet shove on the Pre-Flop with QQ. Since we don’t know the villain the call is ok.

    Answering your question, it’s a check-shove OTT or a shove OTR if villain checks behind OTT. You are only beaten by AA (3 combos), KJs maybe (4 combos) and he’ll have all AK (12 combos) and JJ (3 combos) in his range. I dislike the donk bet OTT because you prevent villain to bet with his bluffs like AK or JJ, that’s the main reason why you should check shove OTT or Shove OTR in the case villain checks behind OTT. Better luck next time m8.

     

    AK and JJ are not bluffs and I am not beaten by KJs, but the problem with checking is if he check his bluffs behind and they improve to straights, its not good, it depends a little bit how we construct his 3betting range I think.

    maybe it is more about finding the right donkbetsizing, to make his calls with a bluff unprofitable?

     

     

     

    But according to my range I give him dont you think donkbetallinn is better, because if a bad river card comes and completes many of his

     

    #471582

    Carlos
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    AK and JJ are not bluffs and I am not beaten by KJs, but the problem with checking is if he check his bluffs behind and they improve to straights, its not good, it depends a little bit how we construct his 3betting range I think.

    A: Against your hand, AK and JJ are bluffs since you are ahead. I said KJs but I meant KTs. It will depend on the build-up of his 3Bet range for sure, but definitely, AK and JJ are in it. If you check and he checks behind and hits any draw OTR that’s life, you can still bet OTR and if he raises you and you think you are behind you fold. But that is more advanced, at NL2 you don’t have to worry that much. Just follow NOBS lines and you’ll be ok.

    maybe it is more about finding the right donkbetsizing, to make his calls with a bluff unprofitable?

    A: we don’t donk bet OTF and OTT in the NOBS strategy.

     

     

     

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