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    pokajack55
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    SB: $20.27 (101.4 bb)
    BB: $26.08 (130.4 bb)
    UTG: $41.05 (205.3 bb)
    MP: $47.12 (235.6 bb)
    CO: $20 (100 bb)
    Hero (BTN): $22.94 (114.7 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q of clubs A of diamonds
    UTG folds, MP calls $0.20, CO raises to $0.60, Hero raises to $1.80, 3 folds, CO raises to $4.60, Hero calls $2.80

    Flop: ($9.70) Q of hearts 8 of hearts 2 of clubs (2 players)
    CO bets $4.85, Hero calls $4.85

    Turn: ($19.40) 5 of clubs (2 players)
    CO bets $10.55 and is all-in, Hero calls $10.55

    River: ($40.50) 5 of spades (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Spoiler:
    Results: $40.50 pot ($2.50 rake)
    Final Board: Q of hearts 8 of hearts 2 of clubs 5 of clubs 5 of spades
    CO showed K of hearts K of clubs and won $38 ($18 net)
    Hero mucked Q of clubs A of diamonds and lost (-$20 net)

    V: 27/18 31% RFI CO 3,1% 4b range 1,6k hands

    Q1:  can we fold turn if we had AhQc?

    A1: if V can not have Ah it becomes very hard to have over 25% on turn, especially since V only has 3% 4b range. On the other hand folding with TPTK in 4b pot is hard, because we usually dont have better hands and SP-ratio is very small.

    best case:

    <b>Equity</b> <b>Win</b> <b>Tie</b>  
    <b>MP2</b>  27.11%  27.11%  0.00% AdQc
    <b>MP3</b>  72.89%  72.89%  0.00% QQ+, AhKh, AhJh, JhTh, Th9h

    V has to bet either hands like JJ or Th9h for us to have over 25%.

    his 4bet and flop cbet are kind of bigger than usual. Preflop we can lay down AJo but AQ has the needed 32% vs his 3,1% 4b range.

      <b>Equity</b> <b>Win</b> <b>Tie</b>  
    <b>MP2</b>  31.52%  28.21%  3.31% AdQc
    <b>MP3</b>  68.48%  65.16%  3.31% TT+, AQs+, AKo

    conclusion: if we block V semi bluffing range and he bets more than half pot on the turn + he has a tight 3bet range + is passive, only then can we think of folding TPTK in 4bet pot.

    This is usually not the case, so it is better to call as default.

     

     

     

     

     

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