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  • #182694

    Alex
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    PokerStars – $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) – Holdem – 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    BTN: 110 BB (VPIP: 42.86, PFR: 42.86, 3Bet Preflop: 100.00, Hands: 7)
    SB: 106 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 20.88, 3Bet Preflop: 3.13, Hands: 95)
    Hero (BB): 129 BB
    UTG: 327.5 BB (VPIP: 10.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 32)
    MP: 311.5 BB (VPIP: 22.64, PFR: 13.21, 3Bet Preflop: 4.76, Hands: 53)
    CO: 191 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)

    SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

    Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q K

    fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 2 BB, Hero calls 1 BB

    Flop: (4 BB, 2 players) 8 2 K
    SB checks, Hero bets 2 BB, SB raises to 8 BB, Hero calls 6 BB

    Turn: (20 BB, 2 players) 5
    SB bets 13.5 BB, Hero calls 13.5 BB

    River: (47 BB, 2 players) 9
    SB bets 32.5 BB, Hero calls 32.5 BB

    Spoiler:
    SB shows 4 5 (One Pair, Fives)
    (Pre 42%, Flop 6%, Turn 11%)
    Hero shows Q K (One Pair, Kings)
    (Pre 58%, Flop 94%, Turn 89%)
    Hero wins 108 BB

    Q: Call turn?

    A: Checking the nobs it says to fold tp unless A or K kicker. I still think it’s close because yeah, he could have AK but why wouldnt he cbet the flop? I guess with a big hand he would bet OTF since he is oop and the PFR. 

    OTF i know it sould’ve been 3/4 but I think I missclicked the wrong button.

    Q: Call river bet?

    A: I think it’s almost the same situation as on the turn, but now it’s more likely for him to have a hand like 2P. I’m still not sure because he would bet the flop with  K8 and 89 wont play it like that otf.

    Villain

     

    #182750

    pokerphilosopher
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    I think the bigger question is what reason do you have for straying from the lines?  Without a good reason, I think the best play is to stick to the lines and fold on the turn.  As played..  if the turn call is close, the river should be an easy fold.  What would he play this way? Maybe he’s being tricky with a set, maybe he’s being weird with a flush draw.  I could see him doing this with a pair + flush draw on the flop.  I’m just speculating though.

    #182784

    lix8
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    I would happily call turn since it is blindwar (and nl2).
    River I would probably pussy out and fold. He seems like a normal dude

    And about calling turn with A or K kicker, this rule is to call with the 2 best kickers.

    #182809

    pokerphilosopher
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    Yeah, I agree.  With the wider ranges, calling the turn is probably good.  But that’s because there is a reason to stray from the lines.

    Of course, if what you say about 2 best kickers is true (and not just A/K kickers), then he’s following the rules anyway. :p

    #182852

    ilovewinning
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    I think I’d call down here anyway. We have a TP and the board is not dangerous. Even if it’s somehow connected it doesn’t  bother us. The opponent’s hand would have to be completely random so he either has a K or a pocket pair. I don’t think he hit 2pairs. The sizing is not too big so although he bets every street it doesn’t really indicate he has a strong hand. And I wouldn’t be scared about a flush. He would have bet bigger if he had been drawing for a flush.

    #182908

    BusyP
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    Without me seing him x/r with weak hands I would fold OTF. 

    As played I would’ve fold OTR when even the FD hits. x/r OTF + bet + bet without real miss draws, we will be very often behind.

    #182912

    pokerphilosopher
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    I disagree a little with that.  He check-raises the flop, and barrels turn and river.  That doesn’t indicate strength?  The turn and river sizing aren’t big per se, but they aren’t small either.  Why don’t you think he hit 2pair?  He’s SB, his range should be wide here.  And how do you know he’d bet bigger if he was drawing for a flush? 

    From what we know of his stats, he doesn’t seem like a donk.  So if he’s taking this strange line, I’d give him credit and at least fold the river.  Just my opinion, may be wrong. :p

    EDIT: My reply was in response to ilovewinning

    #183865

    Alex
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    He is a reg, a decent player, that;s why i tagged him red. His line didn’t make sense atm, but I was about to fold and just thought his line doesn’t make sense to me.

    #183922

    rukavinak
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    He is a reg, a decent player, that;s why i tagged him red. His line didn’t make sense atm, but I was about to fold and just thought his line doesn’t make sense to me.

    I dont understand why his line didnt make sense?

     

    #185515

    Alex
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    Well, x/r otf with air, then bet turn with 3rd pair, then bet again otr? Does it make sense?

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