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  • #449591

    Tobi
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    Join date: 2018/11/04

    $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold’em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager – The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    SB: $2.59 (129.5 bb)
    BB: $2 (100 bb)
    UTG: $1.07 (53.5 bb)
    MP: $2.39 (119.5 bb)
    Hero (CO): $3.99 (199.5 bb)
    BTN: $2 (100 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with T of hearts T of spades
    UTG raises to $0.04, MP calls $0.04, Hero calls $0.04, 2 folds, BB calls $0.02

    Flop: ($0.17) 5 of hearts 3 of spades 4 of clubs (4 players)
    BB checks, UTG checks, MP checks, Hero bets $0.10, BB calls $0.10, UTG folds, MP calls $0.10

    Turn: ($0.47) J of clubs (3 players)
    BB checks, MP checks, Hero checks

    River: ($0.47) J of hearts (3 players)
    BB checks, MP bets $0.51, Hero calls $0.51, BB folds

    Spoiler:

    Results: $1.49 pot ($0.05 rake)
    Final Board: 5 of hearts 3 of spades 4 of clubs J of clubs J of hearts
    BB mucked and lost (-$0.14 net)
    MP showed J of spades Q of clubs and won $1.44 ($0.79 net)
    Hero mucked T of hearts T of spades and lost (-$0.65 net)

     

    Q: Call river?

    A: I would call the river. I expect Villain to check-raise his sets and straights on this flop. When Villain bets OTR I give his range Jx, but it’s also blocked cause of the third J. He could bluff since the turn was checked through.

     

    After seeing the results, what did we learn?: Villain overbets his strong hands after all checked through.

    #449931

    Hadrosh
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    Join date: 2018/09/02

    hey,

    Villains opening range should be kinda strong overall because he opens from UTG position, I think calling preflop here is a good move especially because you are getting a discount to see the flop because MP calls too. 

    On the flop you “just” hit an overpair on a straightish board with 4 players in.
    Your bet on the flop is designed, because of the structure, to fold out maximum some gutshots, maybe overcards.
    The player that should fold here optimally is the UTG or the MP player due to the fact that their range should not hit that board hard. UTG folds that is good but the rest stays in the pot and especially MP is getting a good price to continue here and he could do this for 1/3 Pot size with any 2 broadways, a gutshot to the straight if he holds an Ace. BB could have hit the board in any way he could very well have sets or a straight and plays this slow here because of many players to maximise his profit with the best hand. So the Bet on the flop is kinda “meh” because it has no chance of clearing this field right away and multiway we have to be very careful on connected boards even that low. 

    On the Turn an overcard to your pair appears and no one is interessted in playing further. I think the check here is correct because of the reasons mentioned above and the danger of someone holding a Jack, otherwise through checking you are stating that your range is capped and everyone with another Jack might happily continue.
    Range wise Jx, with another Broadway card could very well be part of MP’s and BB’s hands given the action until now.

    When the board pairs with the second Jack makes the Situation even more disgusting. Considering the things explained above and the fact people in NL2 tend to be honest on the River I think the call here is wrong and not doing this could save you a lot of Money in the future. Because you are holding a 2 Pair for sure, but due to the paired board your hand is not worth more than a 2nd Pair.

    those are the ranges I would give the 2 opponents left until River on the Flop :
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    and those are the ranges they continued with after your bet :
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    due to that I would liked a check better on the flop than your bet.
    And Turn equities, after equity wise calling your bet correctly : 

    nothing happened to fold someone out here. Good move here : 

    even though you had the best equity on the River, there are no more cards to come to give you definetly the best hand. As mentioned above you are effectively  holding a 2nd pair. Villain overbets into 2 People on the River and reveals his strength here and is sure his hand is the best. Best hand here is a full house with a set on the flop, which I don’t think makes sense due to the action but some players slow play like this. second best would be a straight on the flop too. third best hand would be a set of jacks. and after that I think your hand comes. A set of jacks makes perfect sense here, without knowing the opponent for a slowplay or something.

    So concluding all this, you could have found a fold.

    #450137

    Daniel Samuelsson
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    Hey, i like the way you played the hand, donk mw, it plays a lot easier, on the turn i don’t mind checking/behind, we got sdv, not really a hand that we got 2 streets of value,

    Remember it’s a mw pot so ranges are generally tighter, i would just play passive and try to realize my equity, and expect villans to not turn sdv into bluff, or even bluff a lot in these spots.

    Given villans size, i just fold, when they show you ‘their hand’ we can let it go.

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