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    freiherr
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    Join date: 2017/10/13

    PokerStars – $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) – Holdem – 6 players

    BTN: 107.7 BB (VPIP: 42.86, PFR: 28.57, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 14)
    SB: 408.2 BB (VPIP: 18.92, PFR: 17.12, 3Bet Preflop: 8.51, Hands: 119)
    BB: 110.8 BB (VPIP: 24.39, PFR: 14.63, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 41)
    UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 21.95, PFR: 21.95, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 42)
    MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
    Hero (CO): 138.7 BB

    SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

    Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q J

    fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.2 BB, BTN raises to 7 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 4.8 BB

    Flop: (15.5 BB, 2 players) J 2 6
    Hero checks, BTN bets 9 BB, Hero raises to 18 BB, BTN calls 9 BB

    Turn: (51.5 BB, 2 players) 5
    Hero bets 15.3 BB, BTN calls 15.3 BB

    River: (82.1 BB, 2 players) T
    Hero bets 20 BB, BTN raises to 67.4 BB and is all-in, fold,

    Notes on the villain:

    Looks like a maniac out of low sample of 14 hands, having  stats before this hand VPIP=43, PFR=29, Agg=2.5, Agg %=63%, 3Bet=25 (2/8) CBet Flop=2/2, Fold to flop CBet=0/1, CBet Turn=0/1, Flop bet=2/4, 2bet flop=1/1, Turn bet=0/3, 2bet turn=0/2, River bet= 2/3. Both his 3-bet he has made from the SB. Has never folded OTF or OTT.

    OMG, this guy has no calling range: out of the 6 hands he had played he raised first in 4 and made 3-bet with 2.

    Q1: What is the right way of playing versus this type of villain?

    A1: Generally I play very timidly versus such irrational types which is one of my major weaknesses. I do need advice on this one.

    Q2: What is my best play PF versus his 3-bet?

    A2: The hand sample that I have of his is very low (Zoom hand) but still his tendencies should be of a maniac. If I choose to play safe I can just fold but I need to learn how to deal with this situation. I will be really exploitable if I don’t have a counter-strategy versus this type of play. QJs is too good to be folded and not enough to 4-bet (the villain hadn’t been 3-bet so I didn’t know if he would fold to 4-bet). That’s why I decided to call. Actually I would have called with 70-80% of my opening range because of the smallish size of his 3-bet.

    Q3: My best play OTF?

    A3: Folding is out of question on this flop so I need to decide if I bet, call or raise (having those stats you know he is going to bet the flop!). In the same session I had tried on a number of occasions to min bet the opponent out of position and it had worked quite well. So I decided to do here.

    In retrospect I don’t think that was a smart thing to do: I had top pair with 3rd kicker against a maniac. Do I want to play a big pot with a marginal hand versus an opponent who is capable (presumably) to get all in on any spot based on the weather report? Not really.

    Now I see (I have missed that during the actual play) his betting size of 9 bb (which is 58% of the pot). I don’t know about him but I use similar sizing when I do want to get called.

    Did I learn anything  from his calling my min C / R? Not a thing: for 14 hands he hadn’t folded OTF or OTT a single time. I showed I had something but that was it.

    Q4: What do I do OTT? My best line?

    A4: During play I decided to bet small (less than 1/3 of the pot) to protect my hand. Was that effective? No. That only made the pot bigger.

    Can I seasonably check my whole range here? Probably. I should have used the rule that says you can (or have to) check your whole range when on the board gets a card that changes the character of the whole board (in essence you check because you have a whole new game). 

    My smallish bet can be regarded as a check though as a slight deviation from the above rule.

    Q5: My play OTR?

    A5: I decided to make a block bet OTR. The block bets are easily exploitable if the opponent recognizes them as such: he just bets big any two cards and I would have to fold.

    I had 22% pot odds on my call which I didn’t take into account during the play. Is my opponent bluffing here more than 22% of the time?

    The problem is that he hasn’t many natural bluffs: if he was bluffing diamond FD OTF, OTT he got there. He definitely could have AJ, KJ or JT that improved OTR. Also all pairs TT+ are crushing me. Could he overplay QJ (or a lower jack) on this board? He might occasionally do that but not most of the time. He could just call my bet.

    Can he jam the river with AKo/AQo/KQo, one of his cards being diamond that could make flush OTR? This type of hands has excellent blocking abilities (block top jack hand, also block a possible flush of mine). Other than that 77-99 with a diamond also can jam the river but they don’t block that good my calling range.

    I am not really sure if he plays 76s, 65s, 54s, 43s but some of those hands OTR became excellent bluffs since they couldn’t really call the river bet.

    Equity vs loose bluffing range:

    Equity vs tight bluffing range:

    Seems my call largely depends on the his perceived bluffing range. But since it looks really close neither calling nor folding could be a big mistake. (Hopefully!) 🙂

    #470828

    Tim
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    Fold pre flop. As you played don’t raise OTF.

    #470875

    freiherr
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    Yes, @marovtus, the hand has no significant edge advantage versus the villains range and can be reasonable fold PF.

    OTF I need to keep the pot small and C / R is not a good option.

    Thanks for your comment!

    #471578

    Bifizerocool
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    Join date: 2019/05/17

    Fold pre flop. As you played don’t raise OTF.

    against this player how can you fold preflop?

    there are so many weak hands you are dominating with QJs.

    #471581

    Bifizerocool
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    I really dont like the way you played that hand why did you checkminraise the flop?

    and betsmall OTT and OTR?

    I would play that hand passively and try to potcontrol.

    making check-calling lines.

    He has weak hands which you beat but you dont know wheather he checks them or some of them. And he has many hands which dominates your hand.

    What do you think about betting very small on all 3 streets to potcontroll?

     

     

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