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  • #345223

    hyachu
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    Back to normal mental state and played a few short sessions after the big losing day. The trend is positive. 

    On expanding table selection, finally got an account on another poker site (this time with BCP affiliate). Time to put in some volume.

    #345459

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    2017-09-13 03:20:162017-09-13 03:20:16
    Board: Qh8s8c   Equity  Hand    Time:  12.0 secSB 04.44   QdQs    Guess: 2BB 95.56   8d8h    Error: 2.44

    Board: QdAs4c   Equity  Hand    Time:  7.0 secSB 86.87   AcQc    Guess: 4BB 13.13   Ad4d    Error: 9.13

    Board: 6dAh9s   Equity  Hand    Time:  12.0 secSB 63.13   AcKc    Guess: 38BB 36.87   8s7s    Error: 1.13

    Board: 9hQsTc6c Equity  Hand    Time:  43.0 secSB 54.55   AdQh    Guess: 41BB 45.45   Jc9c    Error: 4.45

    Board: 3sJc3c   Equity  Hand    Time:  19.0 secSB 45.71   AhKh    Guess: 52BB 54.29   QcTc    Error: 2.29

    Board: 8c6c5c   Equity  Hand    Time:  24.0 secSB 43.23   Ac8s    Guess: 43BB 56.77   9s9c    Error: 0.23

    Board: 5h4h3h   Equity  Hand    Time:  25.0 secSB 40.00   AdAc    Guess: 54BB 60.00   6d6h    Error: 6.0

    Board: 9d6h9sQs Equity  Hand    Time:  15.0 secSB 81.82   Qc2h    Guess: 20BB 18.18   8s7h    Error: 1.82

    Board: 6sThQs   Equity  Hand    Time:  18.0 secSB 60.20   Qc2d    Guess: 37BB 39.80   9s5s    Error: 2.8

    Board: Td9hKs   Equity  Hand    Time:  16.0 secSB 70.71   KhTc    Guess: 33BB 29.29   8c7c    Error: 3.71

    Board: TsKs8d   Equity  Hand    Time:  19.0 secSB 58.79   8h8c    Guess: 37BB 41.21   Js9s    Error: 4.21

    Board: bbbbbbbb Equity  Hand    Time:  10.0 secSB 46.59   Kc4h    Guess: 47BB 53.41   2s2c    Error: 0.41

     

     Average error: 3.21 Average time: 18.3

    #345821

    hyachu
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    Equilab. Case study AKs with backdoor flush only against some hands that villain would continue on mid-low straight board.

    1. http://www.pokerstrategy.comhttp://www.pokerstrategy.comBoard: 5d8h7s Equity Win TieMP2 51.36% 50.81% 0.56% { AsKs }MP3 48.64% 48.08% 0.56% { Jd9d }
    2. http://www.pokerstrategy.comhttp://www.pokerstrategy.comBoard: 5d8h7s Equity Win TieMP2 24.70% 23.43% 1.26% { AsKs }MP3 75.30% 74.04% 1.26% { 5h4h }
    3. http://www.pokerstrategy.comhttp://www.pokerstrategy.comBoard: 5d8h7s Equity Win TieMP2 4.34% 2.83% 1.52% { AsKs }MP3 95.66% 94.14% 1.52% { 7d7h }
    4. http://www.pokerstrategy.comhttp://www.pokerstrategy.comBoard: 5d8h7s Equity Win TieMP2 26.21% 25.86% 0.35% { AsKs }MP3 73.79% 73.43% 0.35% { 9h9c }
    5. http://www.pokerstrategy.comhttp://www.pokerstrategy.comBoard: 5d8h7s Equity Win TieMP2 50.81% 50.81% 0.00% { AsKs }MP3 49.19% 49.19% 0.00% { Td9d }
    6. http://www.pokerstrategy.comhttp://www.pokerstrategy.comBoard: 5d8h7s Equity Win TieMP2 23.08% 22.53% 0.56% { AsKs }MP3 76.92% 76.36% 0.56% { 9d8d }
    7. http://www.pokerstrategy.comhttp://www.pokerstrategy.comBoard: 5d8h7s Equity Win TieMP2 21.62% 20.51% 1.11% { AsKs }MP3 78.38% 77.27% 1.11% { 7d6d }
    8. http://www.pokerstrategy.comhttp://www.pokerstrategy.comBoard: 5d8h7s Equity Win TieMP2 17.37% 15.96% 1.41% { AsKs }MP3 82.63% 81.21% 1.41% { Ad8d }
    9. http://www.pokerstrategy.comhttp://www.pokerstrategy.comBoard: 5d8h7s Equity Win TieMP2 29.80% 28.28% 1.52% { AsKs }MP3 70.20% 68.69% 1.52% { QdQh }
    10. http://www.pokerstrategy.comhttp://www.pokerstrategy.comBoard: 5d8h7s Equity Win TieMP2 5.51% 4.55% 0.96% { AsKs }MP3 94.49% 93.54% 0.96% { 6d4d }
    11. http://www.pokerstrategy.comhttp://www.pokerstrategy.comBoard: 5d8h7s Equity Win TieMP2 26.07% 25.10% 0.97% { AsKs }MP3 73.93% 72.95% 0.97% { QQ-55, J9s+, T8s+, 97s+, 86s+, 75s+, 64s+, 54s }

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    #345843

    hyachu
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    The more we study, the more we know that we don’t know.

    This is 20 days after joining CFP. The content is great and the coaches are professional and helpful. Here is what I struggle with most.

    They are times we should just do the standard line, there are times we should adjust and deviate. This is where I struggle most while playing a hand. I have been playing poker for a while and over the years I have accumulated a lot of poker knowledge (some good, most bad). This got me to beating some of the lower stakes. Then I joined CFP 20 days ago and tried to learn the good fundamentals once again. I tried to just follow the preflop charts (Advanced Ranges) and NOBS standard lines, even there are many occasions the previous version of myself would do something different. I did not, because I am here to learn the solid way. Then I watch more videos (big blind vs small play/small blind unopened play/flop cbet/fast play vs slow play/vs flop bet call or fold/vs flop bet fold or raise bluff). There seems to have enough factors to make plays. Then I attended all the coaching sessions available to me. I have no doubt that the coaches are trying very hard to help us and I deeply appreciate their work. Usually the coaches talk about factors to adjust too. I also know that I should do first before asking.

    But here is my dilemma. Which way to go? Should I ignore my urge to adjust and follow NOBS to the letter? Should I adjust to the game flow? For example, say I have been very aggressive at the table with good hands because I have been getting hands. Then I get a marginal spot like QTs at the SB and we are supposed to 3bet against the regular. Naturally he calls and we flop 983r. This is the funny feeling I am talking about. If following NOBS we should cbet with two overs and gut shot. But then knowing the game flow it is not likely to get any folds. Should I follow NOBS to the letter or should I adjust to the game flow? I feel that if I deviate from NOBS I am mostly playing the same way I have always been before joining CFP. Hence the dilemma.

    In one of the coaching sessions another student asked Coach Asimos about KQo at UTG getting 3bet from late position. In Advanced Ranges chart we should 4bet. Coach Asimos said that KQo has too much trouble of playability and reverse implied odds and should look for more evidence before doing the 4bet. My intuition is with Coach Asimos. That is the way I have been playing before CFP. I almost always fold at this spot and only go to war with KQo against total maniac. But then the chart is standard play, meaning go with that play without reads. So the dilemma is here once again. The chart way or my previous way.

    This post is probably a reaction to the overwhelming influx of information. Hopefully my ah ha moment is right at the corner. 

    #345961

    panosasimos83@gmail.com
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    Hi Sir,

    well, this is due to the nature of poker. Is not a game of absolute truth, but a game of relative truth based on assumptions and incomplete information. Also, it is an unsolved game and in some spots more than one plays may be correct. 

    I’ ll give you a simple guide however of how to proceed in your learning path.

    1. Create a solid system/game plan regarding every spot. This should initially be the standard lines to the letter. As you grow as a player this system should become more complicated and advanced. However, it should always be clear to you and you should always know when you make an action what you do and why. If you find yourself not knowing what is the correct play,  just choose the action with the less possible cost during the game, i.e. fold or check, mark the hand… and create out of the tables a plan for this spot later.

    2. After you have some sample, you can check which parts of your game need improvement. Then you focus on 1-2 spots a time. Don’t get confused and lost trying to change all the game as a whole. 

    **In this example: if your win rate from EP vs 3bets is good, then you should ignore my suggestion (i.e. not to 4bet KQ) if you feel it’s not clear. 

    However, if EP vs 3bet is a spot your game suffers, then you should study this spot as a whole (until you create such a system for this spot which gives you satisfying results).

    #346000

    hyachu
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    Thanks Coach asimos.

    I think you pointed out the core of the issue: not having a solid plan on various spots. I am solving the problem on the fly. Every hand I play, I solve the problem as if it is a new problem. Over time, the problems become easier to solve, but yet I am solving it all over again. That explains why I cannot sustain a longer session. Having a solid plan for most frequent spots is a must.

    I should change the approach to as if I am writing a program. Nothing has happened yet during the programming period. The mind is clearer and there is time to analyze the situation. Then bring the program to the table to run, with the confidence knowing the plays are good. Refine the program during review and ask for help if needed. That’s probably why good players always talk about range vs range. They are looking to refine the program, whereas the rest of us worry about how to play one execution well.

    #346486

    hyachu
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    Basic Poker Math – Pot odds, combinations, ranges: Putting it all together

    1. Villain’s range is 66+, AJ+. How many combinations of pairs does he have? Write them out, like this: AA(number of combos), KK(number of combos),etc.
    AA(6)+KK(6)+QQ(6)+JJ(6)+TT(6)+99(6)+88(6)+77(6)+66(6)+AK(16)+AQ(16)+AJ(16) = 9(6)+3(16)=102 combos

    2. Villain’s range is any two cards ten and higher (TT+, JT+,QT+,KT+,AT+). How many combinations is that? Write them out.
    AA(6)+KK(6)+QQ(6)+JJ(6)+TT(6)+AK(16)+AQ(16)+AJ(16)+AT(16)+KQ(16)+KJ(16)+KT(16)+QJ(16)+QT(16)+JT(16)=5(6)+10(16)=190 combos

    3. How many suited Ax combinations are there? Write them out.
    AKs(4)+AQs(4)+AJs(4)+ATs(4)+A9s(4)+A8s(4)+A7s(4)+A6s(4)+A5s(4)+A4s(4)+A3s(4)+A2s(4)=12(4)=48 combos

    4. The flop is AQ5. We have AK. How many combinations of sets are possible for villain (assuming he can have any hand)? Write them out.
    AA(1)+QQ(3)+55(3)=7 combos

    5. The flop is AsQd5h. We have 6s5s. How many combinations of AQs can villain have? Write them out.
    AQs=AhQh+AcQc=2 combos

    6. The flop is AQ7r. We have 77. How many combinations of gutshots can villain have? Write them out.
    KJ(16)+KT(16)+JT(16)=3(16)=48 combos

    7. The flop is AQ7r. How many TP+ combinations are there? Write them out.
    TP=AK(12)+AJ(12)+AT(12)+A9(12)+A8(12)+A6(12)+A5(12)+A4(12)+A3(12)+A2(12)=10(12)=120
    2P=AQ(9)+A7(9)+Q7(9)=3(9)=27
    Set=AA(3)+QQ(3)+77(3)=3(3)=9
    TP+=120+27+9=156 combos

    8. How many combinations from question 7 do we beat with AT? Write them out.
    Without counting our own AT, AT beats A9(12)+A8(12)+A6(12)+A5(12)+A4(12)+A3(12)+A2(12)=7(12)=84 combos
    With our own AT, they are 8 combos each=7(8)=56 combos

    9. Villain from question 2 (TT+, JT+,QT+,KT+,AT+) goes to the flop. The flop is As8s9c. Does he have more combinations of made hands (and 1P+), or draws (any FD, OESD, GS)?
    1P=KK(6)+QQ(6)+JJ(6)+TT(6)+AK(12)+AQ(12)+AJ(12)+AT(12)=4(6)+4(12)=72 combos
    2P=0 combos
    Set=AA(3)=3 combos
    Made Hands 1P+=72+0+3=75 combos
    FD=KQs(1)+KJs(1)+KTs(1)+QJs(1)+QTs(1)+JTs(1)=6 combos
    OESD=JT(15)=15 combos
    GS=QJ(15)+QT(15)=30 combos
    Draw(FD/OESD/GS)=6+15+30=51 combos
    Villain has more made hand combos (75) than draw combos (51)

    10. Villain from question 9 goes all-in on the flop with all of his made hands and draws. The flop is $10, and he has $15. Can we profitably call him with TdTc?
    We need to call $15 to win a final pot of $40. Profitable call requires $15/$40=37.5% equity.
    Flopzilla:

    TdTc has 29.8% equity. We do not have a profitable call.

    #346497

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    Basic Poker Math – Pot odds, combinations, ranges: Putting it all together

    17. On a 3829K board (no flush), we will value bet AA, AK, KQ, KJ by betting half pot. How many bluff combos do we need to have in order for villain to have a break-even call with TT?
    We bet half pot, villain with TT breaks even when he beats 1/4 of our betting combos.
    Value (AA, AK, KQ, KJ)=42 combos
    Bluff combos: b/(b+42) = 1/4 => 4b=b+42 => b=42/3= 14 combos

    18. On a 3892K board, we KNOW that villain will bluff 67s and JTs on the river for half pot size. At least how many nut-combos does he need in order for us to have a fold with A9?
    Villain bets half pot. We need to beat 1/4 of his betting combos to break even
    JTs(4)+76s(4)=8 combos
    Nut combos: 8/(8+v) = 1/4 => 32=8+v => v = 24 combos. We fold if he has 25 nut combos.

    19. On a 3829K board (no flush), we will value bet AA, AK, KQ, KJ by betting half pot. How many bluff combos do we need to have in order for villain to have a break-even call with JJ?
    We bet half pot, villain with TT breaks even when he beats 25% (or 1/4) of our betting combos.
    Value (AA, AK, KQ, KJ), JJ blocks 6 of 12 combos of KJ, so 6 combos fewer than the ones in question 10, 42-6=36 combos
    Bluff combos: b/(b+36) = 1/4 => 4b=b+36 => b=36/3=12 combos

    20. On a T9732 board (no flush), we will value bet all sets and straights for full pot. How many bluff combos do we need to have in order for villain to have a break-even call with KJ?
    We bet full pot, villain with KJ breaks even when he beats 1/3 of our betting combos.
    Set=TT/99/77/33/22 (3 combos each)=5(3)= 15 combos
    Straight=J8(12)+86(16)=28 combos
    Value(Set+Straight)=15+28=43 combos
    Bluff combos: b/(b+43) = 1/3 =>3b=b+43 => b=43/2=21.5 combos

    21. On a A9742 board, we want to bluff with T8s, 86s, 65s on the river for pot size. At least how many nut-combos do we need in order for villain to have a negative call with JJ?
    We bet full pot, villain with JJ breaks even when he beats 1/3 of our betting combos.
    Bluff combos: T8s/86s/65s (4 combos each)=3(4)= 12 combos
    Nut combos: 12/(12+v)=1/3 => 36=12+v => v=24 combos. We need 25 nut combos for villain to have a negative call.

    22. On a 3829K board (no flush), we will value bet all sets by betting full pot. We play all pocket pairs preflop. How many bluff combos do we need to have in order for villain to have a break-even call with KQ?
    We bet full pot, villain with KQ breaks even when he beats 1/3 of our betting combos.
    Value(Set)=33/88/22/99 (3 combos each)+KK(1 combo)=4(3)+1=13 combos
    Bluff combos: b/(b+13)=1/3 => 3b=b+13 => b=13/2 = 6.5 combos. We need to have 6-7 combos for villain to have a break even call.

    23. On a T9732 board (no flush), we will value bet all overpairs, AT and T9 for half-pot. How many bluff combos do we need to have in order for villain to have a break-even call with KT?
    We bet half pot, villain with KT breaks even when he beats 1/4 of our betting combos.
    OP=AA/QQ/JJ (6 combos each)+KK(3 combos)=3(6)+3=21 combos
    AT=8 combos
    T9=6 combos
    Value(OP/AT/T9)=21+8+6=35 combos
    Bluff combos: b/(b+35)=1/4 => 4b=b+35 => b=35/3=11.67 ~12 combos to break even.

    24. On a T9732 board (no flush), villain will value bet all sets and straights for full pot. How many bluff combos does he need to have in order for us to have a break-even call with KJ?
    This is the same scenario as question 20 with the bettor and caller reversed. So villain needs to have 21.5 combos for us to have a break even call.

    25. On a AKQ86 board, we KNOW that villain will bluff 75s, 97s, T9s on the river for half-pot size. At least how many nut-combos does he need in order for us to have a fold with JJ?
    Villain bets half pot, we need to beat 1/4 of his betting combos.
    Bluff combos=75s/97s/T9s (4 combos each)=3/(4)=12 combos
    Nut combos: 12/(12+v)=1/4 => 48=12+v => v=36 combos. Villain needs to have 37 nut combos for us to fold JJ.

    #346510

    hyachu
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    Basic Poker Math – TEST: Practical Applications Quiz

    7. On a 3829K board (no flush), Villain will value bet all sets, K9, K8 by betting full pot. How many bluff combos does he need to have in order for us to have a break-even call with KJ?
    Villain bets full pot, we need to beat 1/3 of his betting combos.
    Nut combos = 25 combos (from Flopzilla)
    Bluff combos: b/(b+25)=1/3 => 3b=b+25 => b=25/2=12.5 combos

    8. On a A9742 board, we KNOW that villain will bluff T8s, 86s, 65s on the river for 2x pot size. At least how many nut-combos does he need in order for us to have a fold with JJ?
    Villain bets 2 times pot, we need to beat 2/5 of this betting combos.
    Bluff combos=T8s/86s/65s (4 combos each)=3(4)=12 combos
    Nut combos: 12/(12+v)=2/5 => 30=12+v => v=18 combos. Villain needs to have 19 combos for us to fold JJ.

    9. On a 3829K board (no flush), Villain will value bet all sets, K9, K8 by betting full pot. How many bluff combos does he need to have in order for us to have a break-even call with T9o?
    Villain bets full pot, we need to beat 1/3 of his betting combos.
    Nut combos = 28 combos (from Flopzilla)
    Bluff combos: b/(b+28)=1/3 => 3b=b+28=> b=28/2=14 combos

    #346520

    hyachu
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    Basic Poker Math – TEST: Practical Applications Quiz

    6. On a 3829K board (no flush), we will value bet all sets, K9, K8 by betting half-pot. How many bluff combos do we need to have in order for villain to have a break-even call with JJ?
    We bet half pot, villain with JJ breaks even when he beats 1/4 of our betting combos.
    Nut combos=33 combos (from Flopzilla)
    Bluff comobs: b/(b+33)=1/4 => 4b=b+33 => b=33/3=11 combos

    7. On a AKQ86 board, we KNOW that villain will bluff 75s, 97s, T9s on the river for pot size. At least how many nut-combos does he need in order for us to have a fold with JJ?
    Villain bets full pot, we need to beat 1/3 of his betting combos.
    Bluff combos=75s/97s/T9s (4 combos each)=3(4)=12 combos
    Nut combos: 12/(12+v)=1/3 => 36=12+v => v=24 combos. Villain needs to have 25 nut combos for us to fold JJ.

    9. On a 3829K board (no flush), we will value bet AA, AK, KQ, KJ by betting half pot. How many bluff combos do we need to have in order for villain to have a break-even call with QQ?
    We bet half pot, villain with QQ breaks even when he beats 1/4 of our betting combos.
    Value(AA/AK/KQ/KJ)=36 combos (from Flopzilla)
    Bluff combos: b/(b+36)=1/4 => 4b=b+36 => b=36/3=12 combos

    #346731

    hyachu
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    Table Selection – Rake Analysis

    Below is a summary of rake and jackpot fee, the cost of playing.

    The goal for table selection is to have opponents who will lose more than the total rake. So let’s figure out the total rake paid.

    Table Rake:
    WPN(50NL): (77.80+129.46)/0.5/2491*100*6 = 100 bb/100
    WPN(25NL): (60.80+94.42)/0.25/2748*100*6=136 bb/100
    Chico(50NL): 28.41/0.5/589*100*6= 58 bb/100
    Chico(25NL): 31.47/0.25/1028*100*6=  73 bb/100

    From the Science course, Alan talked about which types of players contribute to table. Weaker regulars are only contributing about 10bb/100 each. I wonder how we could make money at WPN at all when most tables are regulars.

    #346786

    hyachu
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    Following up the previous post, I had a quick chat with p0ker_n00b. He pointed out that the “My C BBJ Taken” for WPN could include the rake already. The calculation above is double counting. Here is the updated:

    WPN(50NL): 129.46/0.5/2491*100*6 = 62 bb/100
    WPN(25NL): 94.42/0.25/2748*100*6= 82 bb/100
    Chico(50NL): 28.41/0.5/589*100*6= 58 bb/100
    Chico(25NL): 31.47/0.25/1028*100*6=  73 bb/100

    These numbers make more sense. Thanks p0ker_n00b.

    #349015

    hyachu
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    Another 10 day passed by since the “The more we study, the more we know that we don’t know” (aka confusion) post. Quick recap of what has happened since the post and I will be back to study.

    Picking up some volume, still a long way to go compared to a real professional. Trying to get to 10k hands for a database view, or maybe I could just wait a few days more for the monthly. With careful table selection, the win rate is good for a tiny sample. My major issue, besides technical poker plays, are volume and multi-tabling skill. Still not able to put in the volume I want. A lot of time I find myself table selecting at the lobby for a couple of hours but only play like 200 hands.

    Planet Converter is missing some hands so the hand history is not accurate, but it should be enough for me to work with. It is rather disappointing that the Planet Converter Support told me that the converter will just miss hands, ie, they are not going to fix the converter.

    #351411

    hyachu
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    Notes of “2017-08-06 – coach Asimos – BB vs SB – students Denis Trebizan and Miro”

    Scenario: we are BB and facing a SB 2.5bb steal (50%)

    Preflop, SB has a slight range advantage. Both ranges are wide.

    Flop: We defend with 40%+ equity.
    Turn: play straightforward. any pair, any flush draw
    River: 55%+ because people don’t 3 barrel bluff often


    Board: A 6 3
    Weakest defend: KTo with K, suited combos are the ones with flush draw like K 2 .


    Board: A J 3  (AJx r)
    weakest defend: KT


    Board: A 3 2
    weakest defend: K7o, K or Q suited with Backdoor Q5/Q4

    #352889

    hyachu
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    The other OOP: Object Oriented Programming

    In the bootcamp course there are new videos for out of position blind play last week. I start to appreciate the well thought out strategy style of play, instead of think-on-the-spot style of play.

    It is problem solving. We have many instances of problems to solve. We could approach solving them one by one with minute details, or we could group the problem set into classes and solve the imprecise versions.

    As I am studying the theory videos, I start to appreciate the power of solving a class of problem with specific lines. I have never been good at memorizing things that I don’t understand. I am the type who has to know how it works (at least to the point which I am convinced it has a chance to work) or the idea would not stick in my memory. When I study the lines, I try to understand why we choose the actions we choose. The pattern starts to show up. The specific lines contain a lot of science in them, concise and practical. When we zoom the focus from a hand situation back to a class of problems, we don’t look for outliers. We look for lines that work majority of the time and move on. If the lines work for 80% of the time, it would be good for most small stakes limits. Only when we want the system to work for the other 20% of the time we need to improve the system.

    Right at this moment I am installing the 80% system to replace my malfunctioning parts. Hopefully I can get used to more and more modules and execute them well.

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